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Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11727809/01/23 02:41 PM

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Max,
I get a lot of mowers that have had ethanol in them and there is no way you can then get the main jet out of a Chonda carby but I can always get them out of a genuine Honda carby, obviously there is a difference in the alloy the body is made out of. I sell my 2 strokes for between $80 and $100 and have no problems getting that for them, only problem lately is I haven't had time to build any because I have been working on other stuff. Hopefully this winter I will just concentrate on building a pile of 2 strokes to sell next mowing season, I have missed this one.

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11728609/01/23 11:50 PM

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I see a lot of the primer air cleaner bases warped here too. Using two gaskets has never worked for me. Now if make wedge gasket out one and glue it to the other in the area of non contact then I get them to work. I start by installing the first gasket and tightening down the base cover. Then I remove it and check for correct contact impression on the gasket. This way I know where the extra wedge gasket needs to be added. If all else fails it is a new air cleaner base and definitely don't over tighten the screws. Over tightening the mounting screws is one of the reason for the base to warp. Heat and age is the others.

Also on the fuel/float bowl gasket issue Briggs used two different gaskets. An 1/16" and an 1/8" gasket. Most repair kits only include the 1/16 gasket. Luckily the 1/8 is not a commonly used one but I keep a few on hand anyway.

And Norm I get jets and nozzles stuck in too here. It is as if they chemicals they add to gasoline is creating Loctite. Some are simply impossible to remove.

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11732313/01/23 10:57 PM

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Regards the air filter pre filter, is that meant to be cleaned and oiled regularly? Can you just use the air filter without it?

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11732414/01/23 01:32 AM

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Don't oil the quatum pre filter, it will wick into the paper filter. you can use it without it - what I have personally done is cut a square of old bath towel or tea towel and used that as a prefilter on the quantum - works really well

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11732714/01/23 05:30 AM

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That sounds like my kind of solution. The prefilter really swells up the price. How do you keep it in place though?
Is there a seller on EBay you recommend? One with 100% positive feedback wants $9.95 for one with free postage and another has five for $2 more with 99%.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated NormK#11732914/01/23 06:52 AM
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I add pre-filters to any filter system when possible and make them from vacuum cleaner bags cut to shape, held in place by tape or string or whatever.
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Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11733014/01/23 10:00 AM

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Just cut it a little oversize so the edges can cover the ends of the paper filter, put it in the plastic housing and screw it back together. Holds itself fine

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11770111/03/23 08:44 PM

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I recently found a decrepit Rover with Quantum motor and after swapping out it's carby and air filter base onto the Victa, it started but with a persistent smoking exhaust, but after running it and using it to mow the nature strip out the front, it seemed to gradually clear, although it got dark so was hard to tell for sure. We'll see tomorrow.

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Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11770612/03/23 12:53 PM

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I tested it today and the smoke cleared. Got myself another engine now.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11770712/03/23 03:12 PM

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My friend was asked if he knew of anyone who might want a recently replaced mower which had always started and run well but had got old. This Rover Combat turned up here this morning - with a catcher in excellent condition.

Throttle cable broken, plenty of rust in the deck, front axles wired on, blades far past worn out.

Take a look at the "filter" ! It fell to pieces when taking it out of the cover. Perhaps never been cleaned ? The plug wasn't much better.
After some TLC it is now purring nicely, cable all sorted, will get a new set of blades soon.

I really like the red cable tie, managed to remove and replace it intact after re-jigging the cable.

Any idea of how old this Rover is ?

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Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11770912/03/23 04:55 PM

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MM, it looks early 2000s going by the engine. Very nice mowers the Aussie made Rovers.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated

MowingManiac#11772716/03/23 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MowingManiac

I add pre-filters to any filter system when possible and make them from vacuum cleaner bags cut to shape, held in place by tape or string or whatever.

Great minds think alike. Not that I use it very often but I have a Honda HRU19R 'Buffalo Buck' (GCV160) that has the terrible B&S style air filter box on the side that takes the rectangular pleated filter. While each filter comes with a thin foam pre-filter this still does a sh*tty job at keeping dust & particles off the main filter - and after every use it will have significant crap in the airfilter.

Sick of blowing this out with compressed air I took a synthetic cleaning cloth (it's almost like the stuff the surgical masks are made from) - cut to slightly larger size and placed over the filter (removing the foam prefilter as it's near useless).

The fit on those stock airfilters is a bit so-so as well - so I put a very thin layer of grease around the edges to give something of a gasket/sticky edge to trap any dust that does get drawn to it.

In comparison quality airfilters like on the GXV160 engine has near nothing in them - so definitely worth improving with some thin cloth or even a surgical mask material piece to assist keeping the main filter clean longer.

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11777021/03/23 08:19 PM

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I cut out an old face mask to use as the pre filter after cleaning up the gunk out of the filter cover. Then loaded the cover with a new filter and the face mask material.
A coat of silver tidied up the engine nicely.

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Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11777222/03/23 12:35 AM

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So you were worried that it could get Covid? <LOL>

Re: Is it too complicated

NormK#11777322/03/23 12:57 AM

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Everybody knows they aren't that effective against covid-1976.

Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!

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